Broker leads call for 'People's Bank'

By BN | 08 Jul 2009

Mortgage broker and economist Nicholas Gruen is one of six economists who have called on the government to establish a 'basic savings' alternative to the four major banks

Under the proposal, dubbed the 'People's Bank' in the major newspapers, the government would set up a "publicly-owned entity, akin to KiwiBank in New Zealand, to offer essential services in Australia’s finance sector that leverage off unique government infrastructure (eg, Australia Post, the tax system, and the government bond market)".

Gruen, CEO of Lateral Economics and Peach Discount Mortgage Broking, along with Rismark International founder Christoper, Joye, Melbourne Business School academics professor Joshua Gans and Sam Wylie, Monash University professor Stephen King and former ACCC commissioner, John Quiggin, were all signatories of the open letter which highlighting the fact that the four major banks have been the "biggest beneficiaries" of the sub-prime "chaos" due to receiving "the most favourable regulatory treatment under the existing system".

The open letter said it remained uncertain to what degree Australia's successful navigation of the "catastrophe" was due to "our own regulatory foresight or just good luck".

"We would do well not to discount the possibility that a 'good roll of the dice' left us without more significant system failures such as those seen in the UK. In future crises, we may not be so lucky," it said.

The economists warned that "as a nation with a large foreign debt that has continually increased its liabilities via enormous current account deficits Australia's vulnerability to foreign shocks is in many respects greater than most of our peers".

It questioned what impact "whole or partial nationalisation of banking systems around the world" would have on Australian institutions ability to source foreign credit, pointing to recent actions by the UK government and the new regulatory regime in the US under president Obama in particurlar.

They called on the government to thoroughly review the existing system and evaluate whether changes need to be made to it.

To read the letter in full click here

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Commented by: james at 08 Jul 2009 04:40 PM Report this comment
Couldn't agree more. A fifth major is badly needed to introduce some much needed competition into the system. The fact that Aussie banks routinely make 20% more off their customers than anywhere else in the world should be a source of national embarassment, not government pride.
Commented by: 90s Old School Broker at 08 Jul 2009 04:54 PM Report this comment
Our Government could introduce competition and privatise the entity once its was massive. The 5 years of competition would save everyone a fortune, stop the banks from price fixing and return control of rates back to the RBA.

Then the debt the government could pay down by privatising the bank.

Now is the perfect opportunity.
Commented by: Jimmy at 08 Jul 2009 06:27 PM Report this comment
90s Old School Broker, i am commenting on when you said "Our Government could introduce competition and privatise the entity once its was massive".......

If you had a money tree, would you sell it? Yes, you read correctly; a money tree.
A private bank is a license to print money. They loan out more money than that TOTAL given to them by investors and depositors. That is money creation. Creating vastly more money than existed before. Dont believe me? Well, google "money as debt". It explains how the banking system degrades money that is in existence (ie, creates inflation), creates money in the system in the form of debt, and that it is literally impossible for all loans created to be paid back.

I read an article late last year by Ellen Brown. It said that 46 of the 50 American states are insolvent, and could be filing for bankruptcy within the next 2 years.
HOWEVER, one of their states is not insolvent. It has its own bank, has a budget surplus of $1.2 billion. Personal income has grown 43 percent, & wages grew by 34 %. Doing business in their state requires banking with that states bank. All money that is created "out of thin air" (from the current banking system) goes to the government. Where as witht he other states, government pays a tonne of money on loans. Loans cost money. If we had our own bank and enough people understood the current banking system and how it degrades, leaches and all the rest, then i am sure people would be keen to dump the currently 4 unpopular leechers, and support a national bank that works FOR the people, not against them.
Commented by: Zoidberg at 09 Jul 2009 09:13 AM Report this comment
Well said Jimmy. Nice to see someone else is awake to this fraud that had been going on for the last hundred odd years. Also, the biggest mistake of the Keating Gov was to privatise the CBA. Dodgy decision that one, which has helped lead us to our current situation. A Bank for the people, like the original CBA would allow Australia to take control of OUR money supply again. We also need to make the RBA accountable to the Government / people. Perhaps we can even take ownership away from HRH? BTW - California should be bankrupt by the end of next month. More than half their services have been closed and no one is taking their IOU's anymore. Crazy times indeed for the 6th largest economy in the world. Yes, we are all screwed...if not now, very soon.
Commented by: andrew at 09 Jul 2009 03:19 PM Report this comment
Brokers we need to get behind this. The government champions competition everywhere except in the banking where we have a government guaranteed oligopoly. They move in unison suggesting collusion and the govt stands by and watches.
They want to help first home buyers yet the banks have pulled their support for first home buyers at the time when the government is trying to support them. They are working at odds with the govt and should be brought back into line. Peoples bank is a brilliant way to do it.
Commented by: BBB at 09 Jul 2009 03:41 PM Report this comment
Nicholas Gruen is quite a visionary. So is Jimmy .
I am also an old style broker with a banking background and some private loan experience .

If our Labour Goverment can stsrt a Kiwi style Bank and take a good margin using their AAA rating to back the issuew of Mortgage backed bonds ( they are essentailly doing something like this now with guarantess for MBS issued ) it will work ., and it will create real competition
It is a licence to print money , it would also see competition back and give us really multipe choices in the Bank/ Non Bank Market .

Lastly alate message for brokers, stop handing the Big 4 most of your business, there are alternatives , If you send all your business to WESTPAC ( example only) all you are doing is digging a grave for all of us, you are lazy , stsrt sending your deals to Non Bank lenders as well < BE A BROKER,a Processor for the banks
Commented by: Peter at 09 Jul 2009 04:28 PM Report this comment
A peoples bank would be very popular to start with but banks are banks. I would imagine the staffing would come from the existing banks and bring the culture with them. If they became popular the brokers would use them and the same service issues would pop up. What would make a real difference for a new bank would be to get non bankers to run it (senior management) to fix the culture and to introduce LIXI or something similar and refuse to deal with any other bank who doesn't agree to a common banking language so that generic forms and applications could be used. None of our banks are going bankrupt thanks to the guarantee. They just need a good kick in the ego to help them remember their customers. A peoples bank following rate cuts by the RBA would force to big 4 to take notice(maybe).
Commented by: QLD PLAN broker at 09 Jul 2009 05:58 PM Report this comment
Wake up people. I can't believe all the trivial crap you discuss on this site.
The # 1 issue for the past 18 months is WESTPAC and the fact that we as brokers have let them get away with paying a pathetic 50% & 15%!!!!! I stop using them as soon as they made the change but the rest of you morons continue to support them . You bitch and whinge when other lenders paying us more try to better structure there dealings with us yet miss the obvious.
STOP SUPPORTING WESTPAC
Commented by: MJP at 10 Jul 2009 11:19 AM Report this comment
Note Brokers of Australia-Kiwi Bank did not deal with brokers in the 1st 4years of their existence, and only are dealing with 1 'small' group now on a trial basis. So though the idea would bring competition, it is likely that Brokers would not gain access to that institutions product range.
So you are embracing the idea of a well funded, interest rate/fee discounting nationwide institution that you may find is direct competitor to the business you write.
In NZ, Brokers have been dealing with such for many years, and that also extends to HSBC, BNZ (owned by the NAB), all of which offer 'specials' at times, that none of the 'big' 3 ANZ/NBNZ, Westpac, ASB (CBA)will directly/openly compete with.
So "beware" the People's Bank may erode your volumes.
MJP
Commented by: doutbful at 10 Jul 2009 01:32 PM Report this comment
if they do start a peoples bank i doubt very much that they will use third party distribution, so be careful what you wish for, the other may have to have two teir pricing to compete.

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