Brokers given until mid-2014 to get Cert IV
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Larry Schlesinger
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18/12/2009 12:46:00 PM
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Under transition arrangements released by ASIC, brokers and their representatives now have until 30 June 2014 to obtain a Certificate IV qualification.
This was made clear in a series of guides issued today to help those preparing their credit licence applications.
While Certificate IV in Financial Services (Mortgage/Finance Broking) is a training requirement for both 'responsible managers' and their credit representatives, both have been provided with a transition period, until 30 June 2014 to obtain the necessary qualification.
In the case of responsible managers (those responsible for the "quality of the credit activities" in the business) ASIC will accept "responsible managers of lenders who can demonstrate five years relevant problem-free experience" and "responsible managers of businesses providing credit assistance who can demonstrate two years relevant problem-free experience" - even if they do not yet hold a Certificate IV.
In the case of representatives of mortgage brokers, ASIC simply states that they have until 30 June 2014 to obtain a Certificate IV in Financial Services (Finance/Mortgage Broking).
From 1 July 2014, anyone applying for a credit licence or acting as a representative of a licensee will need to hold a Certificate IV.
As a general rule, ASIC expects "responsible managers to have at least two years relevant experience and a relevant qualification at the Certificate IV level or above".
Details about Certificate IV requirements were included in Regulatory Guide 206 Credit Licensing: Competence and training along with a series of guides to help those preparing their credit licence applications.
The other guides released are:
- Regulatory Guide 204 Credit Licensing: Applying for and varying a credit licence
- Regulatory Guide 205 Credit Licensing: General conduct obligations (RG 205)
- Regulatory Guide 207 Credit Licensing: Financial requirements
- Regulatory Guide 208: How ASIC charges fees for credit relief applications (RG 208)
- INFO 97 Guidance for small credit businesses
- Regulatory Guide 51 Applications for relief (RG 51)
- Regulatory Guide 108 No-action letters
To download all the guides, follow this link:
Related stories:
ASIC prepares industry for regulation - ASIC released a package of regulatory guidance to help brokers prepare for the proposed National Consumer Credit regime.
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GREAT NEWS! on
18 Dec 2009 03:05 PM
I think I might put that unnecessary Diploma on the backburner till then too!
How on earth will the MFAA continue to justify its sorry existence?
SteveL on
21 Dec 2009 08:35 AM
Dunno If that is great news. For our industry to really flourish, we need to be seen as being better educated, more caring and even more compliant than the Banks. Any official recognition of this will always help. It seems there will be quite a few gray areas here. Oh well.....
john pearl on
21 Dec 2009 10:49 AM
Lets hope the mainstream media dont pick up on this .We make used car salesmen look like PhD candidates .
Janette Tucker on
21 Dec 2009 12:54 PM
I do not believe this ..those that are professional and want to be in the industry either full time or part time should already have Cert IV..it is absolutely ridiculous to have further extensions given the majority would obtain this qualification through RPL anyway.. The MFAA is being very lenient and making themselves a laughing stock buy this extension.Are they aware we are actually in 2009 and July 2014 is actually 4.5 years away!!
Educated on
21 Dec 2009 01:48 PM
Janette - Read the article properly.It''s ASIC who have said they don''t require the CERT IV quals until 2014! And we can all count.
Ray on
21 Dec 2009 02:12 PM
Once again the MFAA is acting more like a Bank then a Broker support organisation - insisting on Cert IV as a part of Membership. WHEN are they going to start supporting the brokers instead of continually knocking them - they should be there for all members not just the large broker and aggreagors.
New Broker on
21 Dec 2009 09:13 PM
I''m a new broker and I dont support the cert iv requirements. Everyone has to start somewhere. I don''t have a uni degree or any banking experience but I understand customer service and what is required by customers. How is someone support to get started in this industry??? The banks just need to come to the party and provide more support to new brokers.
Dave on
22 Dec 2009 12:26 PM
New Broker you want the banks to support you more because you are new, it sounds like you need to do some more homework. You choose this industry the banks are the suppliers not your teacher, try your aggregator, franchise owner or anyone of the various external players but rest assured of one thing, it''s not up to the banks to support you it''s up to you to support yourself. Good luck I think you will need it.
New Broker on
22 Dec 2009 12:56 PM
Thanks Dave but homework is not needed. I just want cheap loans that get turned around fast (and have no claw back). If the banks are the suppliers they need to give us the product knowledge to sell their product. I dont use an aggregator, I managed to get a direct accreditation with NAB and ANZ. Aggregators arent worth the money they want.
Richard on
22 Dec 2009 04:35 PM
Given the experience with the deadlines previously set and revised from time to time with Cert 4 One should be careful to again rush in at the behest of the MFAA to Licensing requirements and perhaps be more guided by ASIC
(what has happened to the MFAA expelled brokers - have they been re-instated - how embarassing)
Maybe A Broker on
22 Dec 2009 06:59 PM
New Broker, you do not support cert iv, you only have two lenders, you understand customer service, give us your phone number there will be a lot of our customers you will be able to help, that we can not with our twenty lenders. How many leders did you try to get accredited with. So we can say that you offer your customers no qualifications and probably no idea.I think your customers will need the good luck.
Wayne on
22 Dec 2009 09:56 PM
As someone who is new to the industry I don''t see what the big deal is when it comes to doing the cert 4 and even the diploma for that matter... I did both in less than 3 months. You ''experienced brokers'' should stop complaining and just do it, you will probably get credits anyway. If your as good as you say then put your money where your mouth is!
Plus most employers are specifically asking potential candidates to have the cert 4 or even diploma, otherwise don''t bother applying. This was the case with one job I recently applied for (asking for the diploma) and another, who I am putting an application together for as we speak, who is asking for cert 4 as a minimum.
Point is that it''s happening and the longer you wait the more it will cost you... Prices just went up about 3 weeks ago. Diploma went up $95, not sure about the cert 4 but I''m pretty sure I got in before the price rise. My guess is that it will go much higher the closer we come to the cut off date.
Thats my 2 cents.
This has to be a joke on
23 Dec 2009 08:04 PM
Why does are so called governing bodies make our industry the laughing stock its becoming. My personal belief is that all brokers should have their diploma as a minimum qualification. Many expoerienced brokers would get RPL for most units. We deal with peoples greatest investment of time and money...realistically we all should be highly educated.
For ''New Broker'' there are many brokers who act as mentors and are able to provide wonderful support and guidance. Having personal service is only a fraction of the job that we as brokers do...understanding the financial situations of clients, problem solving their issues and providing them with a loan that best suits theiur situations. New Broker you need to gain experience before dealing with the public!
Clint on
24 Dec 2009 01:49 PM
Unfortunately ASIC are not taking the finance brokering industry seriously. Thats why we have cowboys like "New Broker" destroying our industries reputation. By now we should all have Cert IV under our belts and be giving consideration to the Dip of FS. We have had it pretty good to date when you consider the compliance and regulation that other advisers (eg Fin Planners) undergo in comparison to our requirements. AML was made compulsory and we were required to comply in a short period, why not Cert IV which can be completed in no time?? If we want to make our industry more professional, its time to step up to the plate and broaden our knowledge of what we are selling and our responsibility to our clients. Afterall, we are assisting people in what is considered probably the biggest investment of their lives. Move with the times guys and help improve the reputation of our industry.
Hak on
04 Jan 2010 03:01 PM
I completed the Cert IV and the Diploma in under 6 months. Surely 4 years is a very log time..